Looking Back On 100 Episodes! | Rubber Duck Dev Show 100

Episode 100 September 14, 2023 00:42:05
Looking Back On 100 Episodes! | Rubber Duck Dev Show 100
Rubber Duck Dev Show
Looking Back On 100 Episodes! | Rubber Duck Dev Show 100

Sep 14 2023 | 00:42:05

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Creston Jamison

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In this episode of the Rubber Duck Dev Show, we look back on our most popular topics for the 100 episodes and discuss why.

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hello, and welcome to the 100th episode of the Rubber Duck Dev Show. I'm Chris. [00:00:06] Speaker B: And I'm Creston, and today we are. [00:00:09] Speaker A: Going to look back at our past episodes. Creston did some number crunching and spreadsheeting and sorting and stuff, and we're going to look back at some of the topics that were the most popular and kind of talk through why we think that is and what that could mean. So should be fun looking back over the past, what, almost over two years now, right? [00:00:35] Speaker B: Almost two? Yeah. I don't even know 100 episodes. [00:00:40] Speaker A: Long damn time. [00:00:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, no, it's got to be over two. Yes, just over two, because we did skip some stuff. [00:00:48] Speaker A: Sure. All right, so before we get into that, though, weekend review. How was your week? [00:00:56] Speaker B: I'm so busy. Mostly, I have hired some assistants, and whenever you bring someone on new, they spend more time than I sought them out to bring relief to me. Busy being so busy, or to focus time elsewhere. But of course, they're monopolizing most of my time now. I hope that gets normalized. But then the other issue that happens is that, okay, I have these additional assistants now. Well, now I have oh, well, now I can get this done and this done. So many other things to get done, so I'm doing more stuff, but my time is not a good combination. I hope things will normalize after a while, but at the start, it's just like, oh, boy. [00:01:55] Speaker A: Yeah. You have to put in all the front loaded work of training the new people to get them. [00:02:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And just getting a sense of, okay, what's the best thing to pass to them? At what point? [00:02:10] Speaker A: All the ramping up. Fun coworker going through a bit of that at work right now. He just got two more people on his team, so he's, like, scrambling like a crazy person to get them ramped up. And the reason he got two more people assigned is because he was overloaded. He couldn't do it all, but now he's like now he's got to do it and train the people. [00:02:34] Speaker B: Yeah. So I'm hoping it'll get a little bit better. I mean, what I hope will get better in general is the overall output of the company from a quality standpoint or whatever, but my time has not been saved thus far. Eventually, I hope that'll be resolved. [00:02:57] Speaker A: But what about you, man, I have had, like, three solid weeks of not one bloody thing going right at work. It's like, I can't put a check mark on the board. There's no w's. I'm just like, Holy crap. And it's not like I don't like my job or I'm unhappy or anything like that. You go through those spurts where it's just like it seems like everything you touch to poop, and you're like, I don't know what to do, so I. [00:03:34] Speaker B: Decided or the situation where you do all this work, all this nothing can get deployed. So it's like nothing's been deployed for like right or whatever. Yeah, it was like me and the Zoom integration. I was like, working on this thing for so many days. Not consecutive because I do a tons of other stuff too, but it was like, when is this going to be over? I wanted to deploy. [00:04:01] Speaker A: Yeah. And it gets so demoralizing and frustrating. And then you don't sleep at night because you're thinking about all these things and how you're going to fix them. So I was like, all right, I'm like, Monday. I'm just taking a day off and I am completely unplugging from everything. There's going to be no slack. There's going to be no Twitter, there's going to be no computers at all. It's just me and family all day. I'm turning my phone off. I've got nothing going on Monday because I'm still on call through the weekend, so I can't take the weekend. I was like, damn it, I'm taking Monday. All right, anyway, so it'll get better. It always does. All right, so two years of us doing this stuff, 100 episodes, and you sent all the fun number crunchies. And two things I noticed right off that were kind of odd to me, but I'm not sure how to make sense of this, is that of our top four watched episodes, most popular episodes, the top two were by quite a bit. The top two had to do with IDE and how to pick an IDE and setting up environments and stuff like that. And the next two had to do with performance optimizations. Yes, the performance stuff I can see because I know that everybody's looking to make better performance and stuff, but I was really surprised to see the IDE shows, the Things Your editor should have, and that Ruby IDE showdown that we had, where we had several people talking about kind of representing the different Ides that support Ruby. I would never have expected those to and they are quite a bit above the other views. So why do you think those were so popular? Why are they sitting at the. [00:06:23] Speaker B: So the one title things your editor should have, that was with Amir Rajan, I believe, or Rajan, I'm not quite sure how to pronounce his last name. But anyway, I think he has not insignificant community. So I think they came over and watched the video. So I think that was a contributing factor. The other thing with regard to Ides in general, when you look into marketing and what types of posts do very well, it's your tools. What tools do you like? For example, if you have a YouTube show, the thing that usually gets a lot of views is, hey, what camera do you use? What mic do you use? People always want to know the tools that are used. But for a programmer, what's your number one tool, what's your IDE? So I think this is my sense. That's probably why those are such highly rated. And because everyone probably has a sinking suspicion whatever I'm using is, maybe there's something better. I don't want to be left behind. Or like me, I'm still rocking the sublime, and hardly no one uses that. Of course, I myself had that feeling. I was like, I'm probably not using what everyone else is. Which is true based on the show and talking to people. Like when I was doing the live streaming a little bit. But I think it's just my opinion with that is that it's just the tool use. [00:08:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:03] Speaker B: Do you have a thoughts on it as to why? [00:08:07] Speaker A: Once I saw this, as I was thinking through it, I'm not entirely sure I know what to make of it. But I think you're right, because I know personally, I'm always looking for tools that will help me be better at my job, be more efficient, automate more stuff so I don't have to do the menial crap, all those kinds of things. I'm constantly looking at that stuff. I guess it makes sense just from a standpoint of what I do. And I've been doing it a long time, so that's always been a thing for me. I thought maybe I was just weird, but apparently not. Apparently that's quite a popular topic, which is I think it's timely to find that out, because in the next couple of weeks, we're inviting Drew Bragg back onto the show to do an episode about the tools we use. As programmers that are outside of the language. The other environmental tools we use, the hardware and the software and stuff that's kind of outside the IDE. [00:09:19] Speaker B: And that's why I recommended it. [00:09:24] Speaker A: There you go. [00:09:26] Speaker B: That was an episode I suggested because, hey, maybe this should get some. [00:09:33] Speaker A: I mean, I was excited about that anyway because I'm interested in that stuff. [00:09:36] Speaker B: But I think also, again, Amir had a community and then for the whole panel that we had for the IDE Showdown, there were essentially three new people, I think, that were bringing their communities as well, or whatever audiences they have. So I think that also kind of helped the views, too. [00:10:00] Speaker A: Yeah, true. And then, although I will say it couldn't all be attributed to that because there were some other things that we had with Dragon, Ruby and Amir on and stuff that didn't perform quite as well. So I think the combination agree that stuff is kind of built up. [00:10:23] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a counterpoint against that. It proves that helps reinforce the tool use phenomenon. [00:10:30] Speaker A: Right. I'm sure he's really fun to talk to. I enjoy talking to him. And he's charismatic to have on the show, too, so that doesn't hurt. But, yeah, it was just kind of surprised me. And actually, the next three after that had to do with performance things. It was the Scaling All the Things episode, the performance series databases and fast text searching in postgres, which I can't say I'm surprised by because optimization is a big topic and there's so many things on it that it's hard to figure out what's good advice and what's not good advice. So I think people end up talking. [00:11:19] Speaker B: A lot about also, sorry, but I'll have to say community again because scaling Postgres, a lot of times I post the Rubber Duck Dev show on Scaling Postgres. So if they saw these episodes, there's probably some crossover from my scaling postgres to say, oh, he's talking about this. Let's see what this is about. There may be some carryover from scaling postgres with regard to those. [00:11:49] Speaker A: I think the common theme I'm seeing is if we want to grow this channel, we need to use other people's popularity to do it. [00:12:00] Speaker B: Exactly. Yeah. [00:12:02] Speaker A: Which is I mean, that's just a common thing in growing. Well, any kind of marketing, really. Writing coattails is not an uncommon thing after that, after the IDE stuff and then performance stuff, the Future of Dragon Ruby was the next one after that. So the Dragon Ruby stuff seems to have performed reasonably well. Again, I think that's because Amir is there and I've also plugged into that community. So I'm on their discord all the time and know did the streaming and I got to know a lot of those folks and stuff. So I think a lot of that had to do with just the networking and getting to know people. And then one of our more popular shows was, I think the first dual set of guests we had on. This was early when we were doing guests and that was when we had. [00:13:13] Speaker B: We didn't have a name for the episode. We just said, hey, these two guys are going to be here with us. Right? [00:13:18] Speaker A: Yeah. We didn't really have a topic. It was just talking to these know, Andrew Mason. And it was I remember that being a really fun of we talked about a lot of different stuff because there was no topic set. It was just talking about devs. So it was just kind of like it really was the sitting in a coffee shop talking about dev stuff with other devs, which was really fun. So what other highlights do you think come out of this list? Looking at this. [00:13:58] Speaker B: I'm sure we'll talk about at some point, but I was intrigued the fact that the podcast so actually in the spreadsheet I sent you, I probably wasn't clear on it, but the bottom portion was the podcast listens and at the top was the YouTube show. So the podcast listening was slightly different. So we could talk about that. Or the other thing I found interesting is not just looking at a total views perspective, but I also found it interesting looking at it from the ratio of likes to views because you noted that you had looked at some of the videos. I'm not sure which ones they were exactly but YouTube decided to try to spread it a bit more. And some people that weren't typical in our audience, I mean, we maybe got some views attributed to them, but they didn't stay around a while. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Right. [00:14:55] Speaker B: It wasn't what they were expecting, apparently, and they left. Yeah, but having a high ratio of views to views or listens, I think is indicative of okay, they really liked whatever this content was. [00:15:09] Speaker A: Right. So, like, one of the highest ones is the fast text searching in postgres. They got a lot of likes. Again, the performance stuff seemed to be well liked as well as the IDE stuff. Those have the fairly high like ratios. [00:15:30] Speaker B: Well, the Ides actually doesn't have they're the lowest in the like ratio. [00:15:37] Speaker A: Yeah. The ratios, they have the highest number of actual likes. [00:15:42] Speaker B: Correct. Sorry. [00:15:43] Speaker A: Yeah, but the ratios are low because they got so many views. [00:15:48] Speaker B: Right, yeah. [00:15:54] Speaker A: And the Dragon Ruby one, future of Dragon Ruby got one of the higher like ratios, which again, I probably attribute to just the community knowing being plugged in so well with us. [00:16:10] Speaker B: Yeah. And also the Halloween party was up there, too, for the ratio. We had that whole big panel on talking about dev horror stories. [00:16:23] Speaker A: Right? [00:16:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:24] Speaker A: That was a lot of fun, too. Good times. All right, so let's talk about the podcast listens, because as you said, you did a view of that and the split between YouTube views and podcast listens is, I would say statistically similar. The total numbers. I mean, podcast listens is a little less, but that doesn't really surprise me because most of my reach out has been, hey, go to YouTube. Not, hey, listen to the, um well. [00:16:59] Speaker B: Actually, what I found is interesting is that I think the things so the outliers in terms of YouTube were the things your editors should have in the Ruby ID showdown. Those have by far the greatest. Those that are number one and two, the most number of views. If you look at the rest and compare it to the I bet the average of the podcast and the average of the views of YouTube are similar if you take out those outliers. [00:17:31] Speaker A: Yeah, probably. [00:17:34] Speaker B: I found that very interesting that it was that balanced. And the other thing that I didn't mention here is that or I didn't incorporate is twitch. So I know that is a component of viewership as well, but I didn't incorporate them into this. [00:17:48] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. Though I will say that because I went and looked at the VODs for twitch and the live viewership was higher. Live concurrent viewers was always higher on twitch than YouTube, but the overall viewership wasn't statistically significant in YouTube. There wasn't a lot of watching of VODs after the fact. It was just the live folks on the twitch side, which again, doesn't really surprise me because that's what twitch is for, really. They don't push the VOD stuff. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I just did a quick calculation. So looking at the top ten podcasts and looking at the I looked at the top eight. So again, it's not apples to apples, but I looked at the top eight to ignore the outliers of those top two videos and actually the views is slightly less on average than the podcast. [00:18:56] Speaker A: Interesting. So one thing I will say about the podcast list that makes me really happy is the most listened to episode on the podcast is the top down or bottom up testing episode. So yay. Because anybody who's been listening to this, listening to us for any length of time knows that I'm a big proponent of testing. I love the testing. So I was happy to see that it's not just me being a test nerd. [00:19:28] Speaker B: Yeah, at least one of those episodes got up there. Yeah. Because we've done at least one other test. I think our first episode or something was like it's all about the test. First or second episode, it was all about the test. Yeah. Have we done any others testing dedicated? [00:19:44] Speaker A: I don't think so. I think it was as I recall it was just those two. I would like to probably do some more because I hadn't really thought about it, but now that I'm thinking about it, that's my big thing. I really think I'd like to do some more on the test. [00:19:58] Speaker B: You love talking about it. [00:20:00] Speaker A: Oh God. Yeah. Those are when we do our two or three hour episodes because I won't shut up. And then the number two listen to on the podcast was the Things Your Editor Should Have. So that lends some more credence to the people are really interested in the tools that other developers use, which is cool. So I think too we should, I mean, let us know in the comments what you think and what kind of topics you would like to see. But I'm thinking more tools topics and what kind of tools do we use for specific things. So if you've got specific ideas for tools that you would like us to talk about whether it be tools for programming, tools for testing, tools for making ourselves more comfortable in our chairs, or tools for streaming if you're interested in that. Whatever. Or Tools for collaboration, that kind of stuff. Let us know what you're interested in hearing because apparently you guys want to hear about tools, so we're happy to oblige. And then as far as other episodes, if there are specific performance things that you're curious about, let us know in the comments. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Now, what I do find interesting, sorry to interrupt, but look at the podcast views. All these performance things, they don't show up anywhere in the top podcasts. [00:21:51] Speaker A: Yeah, that's that's. So I wonder if that says anything about the audience difference between who's watching the YouTube videos and who's listening to the podcast. Why are they there? If you guys have any thoughts on that, let us know in the comments because I'm kind of interested. I don't listen to a lot of podcasts, actually. I'm more of a YouTube video watcher if I want to learn something or hear something or things like that. So I'm interested to know why do you listen to podcasts versus why do you watch YouTube? If you're somebody that does both, what kind of topics are you more interested in listening to on the car? I'm assuming a lot of times I'm driving to work, so I pop on a podcast or I'm on my exercise bike, so I just throw on a podcast that I can listen to things like that as opposed to maybe I'm on the bus. So I'm watching a YouTube video on my phone because I can see things. But what kind of topics kind of have that dividing line for you if you're somebody who does both? [00:23:15] Speaker B: I know for me that it's when I'm in the car. So when I'm traveling different places and I don't have kids or others in the car, I put on, you know, it's not something I can't watch YouTube while I'm driving, right? Well, I mean, you can well you can one should not correct? And it's just convenient because the episodes are there and they're teed up, whereas trying to it would be impossible to try and create a YouTube list. Or I subscribe to YouTube, a YouTube channel, and then I hear about people getting unsubscribed or whatever. It's like YouTube does its own crazy thing. Whereas a podcast, I know I subscribe to it, I happen to use an iPhone. So go to Apple podcasts, I can subscribe to it. I know I'm going to get the next so that's my flow for doing it. But if I'm sitting around, the only social media I do is YouTube. So I'm like watching a lot of YouTube and stuff, but I've heard of other people that are exercising or they're washing dishes or they're doing something else around the house. So they're actively doing stuff. So they're not like watching anything. Then they may put on podcasts and do like that. So that's my experience. And what I've heard from other people. Now why I think maybe the performance stuff didn't come up is that if some of these database performance related stuff, if they're coming from scaling postgres, maybe when I put it on my show, they're already watching YouTube so they can click to it and then watch that right after. Whereas if they're subscribed to the scaling postcards podcast, they're probably not going to go check it out. I would think. I think listeners of podcasts are less likely to look at a link or it would take more effort because imagine I'm driving, hey, here's a link to something. And it's like, okay, whatever, next podcast, listen to the next episode, or whatever. Whereas yeah, so they're not going to literally go and it's more of a barrier to go and find the podcast and subscribe to it. Like if I'm driving, I'm going to say, oh, I heard about this great podcast, let me pull over and subscribe to it while I'm here. Whereas if I'm watching an episode on YouTube, it's much easier. Oh, click it. And now I'm going to watch what they say about think the I think the barrier difference is probably why the YouTube? I think because I mentioned it on Scaling Postgres, I think that probably attributes to why the YouTube views of the performance are higher. Yeah. [00:26:13] Speaker A: I'd also be interested to know, and I'm wondering with you too, but from the audience, what kind of topics do you like to listen to and how much brain power can you devote to concentrating on those topics? Or is it more like it's kind of background chatter that you can kind of pay attention to while you're doing something to focus. So I wonder from the audience, I'd be interested to know what kind of topics would you rather hear as a podcast and what kind of topics would you rather watch on, you know, if there's lots of visual AIDS, you're going to want to watch that on YouTube. But with the podcast, are you really trying to learn a specific thing and really concentrate? Or is it more that you're just trying to kind of hang out and listen to folks talk about topics and it's more like sitting in the coffee house, listening to people talk and enjoying the conversation. Because like I said, I'm not a big podcast person, so I don't really have an opinion there because I don't do it when I'm walking or exercising or on my bike or something. I'm actually listening to Audible because I like to just completely escape from now. [00:27:46] Speaker B: Audible, are you listening to books or is it music? Listening to books. Books. [00:27:54] Speaker A: And it's not anything that has to do with development. Yeah, fiction books. So I can completely escape from that part of my life for a little while. So I just don't do a lot of podcast listening. So I'm curious to understand why and I know they're really popular and I'm kind of the OD man out there, but I'm curious to understand if you. [00:28:21] Speaker B: Had an hour plus commute, you'd probably well, yeah, true. Might get accustomed to checking them out. [00:28:29] Speaker A: But anyway, yeah, this is true. I mean, since my commute is walking from my bedroom to my office down a flight of stairs. [00:28:39] Speaker B: Yeah, or at one point if you had done that significantly, you might have, which I did. [00:28:46] Speaker A: But again, it was always either music or audiobooks. I was just never into podcasts, maybe because when I'm not working, I kind of like to do something different with my brain. So I don't know. But that's me. But I am genuinely curious as to what people like about podcasts and how they kind of use them. Is it background noise? Is it something there to help you focus on something else. Are you actually trying to focus on the podcasts? Or do you just need to be at conversations that are light hearted and somewhat amusing that you don't really have to pay that much attention to? [00:29:37] Speaker B: I think there also I'll throw in my two cent, but definitely viewers, listeners, please. We'd like to leave your comments. We'd kind of be interested in hearing or if you're a part of our email list, go ahead and hit reply and let us know. But the reason I do it primarily is awareness. So I just kind of want to be aware. It lets me keep more aware of what's going on. And I really don't listen to hardly any that are programming related. They are health and fitness, they are financial podcasts. So it's just keeping an awareness of what's going on in the economy, health viewpoints. Those are the kinds of things that I listen to. I know another big area of podcast listening is for entertainment purposes, like true crime episodes or fictional things that people set up, have podcasts about is another thing. But for me it's just kind of awareness. That's another way to keep up to date what's going and because with can't, if it's something I'm going to need to take notes. I'm not going to listen to a podcast type thing. I'm going to watch the YouTube video because I'll have my pen and paper handy or have my keyboard right there to be able to type something down. So if I'm actually trying to really learn something so again, not from an awareness standpoint, then I usually choose a video format. That's me. [00:31:12] Speaker A: So for you, podcast is more like headline scanning than sure. [00:31:20] Speaker B: Well, they go deep on topics but it's not something that is relevant. Yeah, they go deep on topics, but it's not something that I have to oh, I got to remember this because this is a new great feature I got to use in postgres or I got to start doing this new method in Ruby or something. Like it's more just I can understand. [00:31:47] Speaker A: It in the background, I don't have to study it. [00:31:50] Speaker B: Or it's like, oh, this person used to eat a ketogenic diet and now they've kind of changed what they're eating. They're incorporating fruit or something. So I'm like, oh. So it's just kind of like hearing that and hearing the benefits you receive from that. I was like, maybe I don't think about doing so. It's that type of a thing. So I'm still learning, but it's not my job depends on it learning, right? Yeah. [00:32:24] Speaker A: I would really appreciate any comments on that because I'm interested in kind of the psychology between those two things, why someone would do one or the other in certain situations, what they get out of them. And one of the big reasons I'm interested in that psychology is because I think it helps us deliver a better show and better content for you if we understand what it is you're looking for and how we help you in that facet. So I am genuinely interested to learn the psychology of your views on how you use podcasts and how you use YouTube in the context of learning development information. Since we're a development focused channel. What stuff do you use? Both. Do you only use one or the other? When you use both, which kinds of topics do you prefer on one over the other? Really interested in that. So yeah, if you have any thoughts or comments on that, please leave them in the comments. I'd love to see it. So any other things that you saw that really stuck out to you reviewing the last hundred episodes other than it's been a lot of fun? [00:33:55] Speaker B: Not so I was just like part of me was looking over the episodes. I wonder if titles are more important for the podcasts than YouTube because I know you can see what the episode is about. Would people choose to ignore podcast episode or do they just listen to them all? I don't know. I mean, titles are important for YouTube videos as well. [00:34:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. There's a whole thing, like if you look at TubeBuddy and other SEO type things, they spend a lot of time talking about titles and how they should be formatted and what words should be capitalized and all that kind of stuff. They tend to be important. But you're right and I wouldn't have even an opinion on this because since I don't use podcasts, I never look at the titles of podcasts, so I have no idea. Interesting, I guess. Heavy podcast users. Do you look at titles? Do you really care about that or. [00:35:05] Speaker B: Is it just, hey, how often do you skip one? Because I'm a completionist, I guess, or whatever. If I'm subscribed to something, either I'm all in or I'm in for a little bit and then I fall all the way off. I'm either on the wagon or off. I rarely pick and choose something because I'm like once I'm on the wagon, I kind of completionist and I kind of do all the episodes. But are other people do you kind of like, oh, this one sounds interesting, I'll listen to this one and you look at another title. Like, I don't want to know that. Yeah, that would be interesting to know. [00:35:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it would. [00:35:45] Speaker B: Or is it for YouTube? Like you pick and choose what episodes of ours you watch based upon what we're talking about? [00:35:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it would be interesting to kind of know. I mean, we can look at numbers and stuff, but it's more informative for the audience to just tell us what they think and how they use it and what's beneficial to them because I am interested in delivering something that's beneficial. I mean, I have fun doing this most of the time, but there are. Days, but that rarely has anything to do with the show. It more has to do with what else is going on in life and. [00:36:31] Speaker B: God, I don't feel like doing this today. [00:36:36] Speaker A: But I am interested in understanding that. And one of the big reasons is a couple of final thoughts here. Over the hundred episodes, the two years we've been doing this. My absolute favorite thing about this show, the number one reason I'm glad I started this is because I have met so many awesome people doing this show. And it's developed some friendships, it's developed a lot of knowledge. It's developed a refreshing of my desire to be a developer. But all that has to do with the people I've met through it, the guests we've had on, the people I've talked to through discord and stuff, and just all the different viewpoints, the different ideas, the other groups I've been able to get involved in because of that. So that's been the number one thing for me, is just getting to talk to people. And I'm really thankful for that. So thank you, audience, for being here, for getting to know us, for letting us getting to know you. I hope we get to continue to do that. [00:37:56] Speaker B: Yeah, every time we bring a guest on, I definitely learn something. So it keeps expanding my horizons. [00:38:02] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. [00:38:05] Speaker B: So I did want to mention one thing in that podcast, you can leave reviews. So I did want to read one of the reviews we received. I don't know if it's the only one, but it's a good one, so I'll read it. So this is from, I guess Asobarine or something, but it says, an invaluable resource for software developers everywhere, no matter the subject, you're guaranteed to gain something with every episode. Can't recommend the Rubber Duck. Dev show enough. So thank you very much. [00:38:39] Speaker A: We win. [00:38:40] Speaker B: Awesome. [00:38:41] Speaker A: Thank you. We really appreciate that. That's a very good pat on the back and makes us want to keep doing this kind of stuff when we get that kind of feedback. So we want to be helpful. We want to meet more of you. We want to talk to you, so please reach out to us. You can reach me on Twitter, X, whatever the hell it's called now. You can reach out to us [email protected]. You can come to Rubberductdev Show and sign up for the newsletter, or you can leave comments and talk to us through YouTube. We are happy to talk to people. I love to talk to people. So if you're out there and you're a dev, I want to get to know you as a person. So reach out to us, please, and talk to us. Let's have a conversation because I love it. So we appreciate you all that have been hanging around listening for the past however long you've been here. I know some of you have been around for the two years. [00:39:55] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:39:56] Speaker A: We appreciate that. I'm looking forward to another 100 episodes and hopefully we can make that work, grow it out and do even more fun stuff. We are working on some tweaking to formats and things and we'll be making some new things. I've had to back off a little bit the past few weeks because I've been crazy busy at work, so I've had to drop my coding with Chris for a little bit, put it on hiatus and things. But we are still working on this and plan to keep going for as long as we hold out, I suppose. But we do appreciate you and we do appreciate the opportunity to do this. So looking back on 100 episodes, it's been a really fun thing to do and I really feel blessed to have been here this long and looking forward to more of it. [00:41:04] Speaker B: Yes, thank you. [00:41:06] Speaker A: So we will see you guys next week with Show 101. I'm not sure what the topic is going to be. As I said, Drew Bragg is going to be coming to join us in the next couple of weeks, but I don't know. [00:41:17] Speaker B: Okay. [00:41:18] Speaker A: I don't think next week, I think it's going to be the week after, but I'm still trying to finalize some scheduling with him. [00:41:23] Speaker B: I guess it's mystery topic tonight. Yeah. [00:41:26] Speaker A: So next week mystery topic. You guys can look forward to that. But that'll hearken back to the early days of the show where we never knew what the hell was going on. So now we at least pretend like we know what was going on most of the time, which is good. But we'll be back with a mystery topic next week. Thanks again for being here. Please leave comments in the comments section. We want to have a conversation with you and I want to understand how you listen to and watch the show and what your opinions are. So we will see you next week. And until then, happy programming. [00:42:04] Speaker B: Happy programming.

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